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Does a strong grip promote slicing?

Does a strong grip promote slicing?

I know it's counter to accepted wisdom, however the more I consider it, the more I'm proved that instead of curing a slice, a strong grip actually will cause a number of individuals to slice.

A number of the things that have led me to this idea include:

Wrist mechanics.
Spinning a ball in ping pong.
What is cocking the wrist?
The strong grip and centrifugal force.

Wrist Mechanics

Hold your left arm in front of you, hand flat, palm down. Take your other hand and grab your forearm two inches behind the wrist. Move you flat hand laterally (thumb to pinky). Do you feel any movement in your forearm? Very little. Immediately move you flat hand up and down (palm to back). Feel any forearm movement this time either? Again, not much. Immediately, attempt and move your flat hand down at a 45 degree angle (in what looks similar to a chopping motion) with no moving your forearm. Feel anything? You ought to have felt your forearm rotating. Attempt moving in hand in any direction other than thumb-pinky or front to back. You ought to feel your forearm rotating.

Your wrist just flexes in 2 directions. Thumb-pinky and palm-back. All other movements require you to rotate your forearm.

One handed club exercise.

Grab a golf club and line up behind a ball with a strong grip. Take your right hand off the club. Immediately move your left hand thumb-pinky several times and watch what the club face does. It cuts across the face of the ball at an outside to in angle. Here's the type of quick, short, chopping motion you use with a ping-pong paddle to cause the ball to curve (and I will call it the ping-pong paddle golf head movement from immediately on.)

If you're the type of golfer that cocks their left wrist in the manner described in Hogan’s guide (as a crook in the left writs, which is essentially a thumb-pinky flex of the wrist) then you're most likely doing this quick, short, chopping movement as you release only prior to you hit the ball. Hogan adopted this grip for the reason that he was fighting a tremendous HOOK (and you will be able to see how this would be a great counter to a hook), however if your natural tendency is to slice, then this movement will make it worse. This brings us to...

What is cocking the wrist?

Somebody online has done an improved job of describing it than me:

"The Question: How does the right wrist correctly cock in the golf swing? Demonstrate your answer by extending your right arm in front of you, as in reaching out to shake a number of body’s hand. Immediately, cock the right wrist, as it ought to in your swing.

The Solution: If you bent the right wrist back on itself, forming a concave at the back of the wrist, then you're correct. However, if you angled the wrist up to the sky, amongst back of the wrist essentially flat, then you've been fooled by a number of slight-of-hand; it sure looks like that ought to happen! Read on, and your game will enhance."

The correct way to cock you right hand is by flexing your wrist palm-back. Theres no thumb-pinky flexing involved.

Repeat the one handed club exercise you did prior to. Just this time notice the face angle of your club. You ought to see that as you flex your wrist toward your thumb, the face angle opens. As you flex your writs toward your pinky, the face angle closes.

The strong grip and centrifugal force.

The're 2 ways individuals are taught to create a strong grip. Rotating both hands to the right (keeping palms parallel), and rotating only the left hand to the right (keeping the palm of the right hand at a right angle to the ball path as it's in a neutral grip.) I do not desire to argue about which is the correct way to create a strong grip, as I feel both promote the ping-pong paddle movement of the club head.

Attempt this experiment. Take a neutral grim. Then take your normal backswing and stop at the top (it's important you do this at your normal speed so the normal centrifugal force shall be in play.) Immediately freeze your wrists all ready, then reduce your arms and rotate your body until the head is back behind the ball. Your will most likely locate that the face is square to the ball.

Attempt no different movement with a strong grip. You'll most likely locate that the face is open to the ball. Why? Centrifugal force.

When you backswing with a neutral grip, the centrifugal force developed by the club head is inline amongst back of your right hand. It's pulling your hand in a palm-back direction.

When you backswing with a strong grip (either style) the centrifugal force is pulling you hands back at an angle somewhere between a palm-back flex and a thumb-pinky flex. The result is your wrists flex not just palm-back (in a correct cocking motion), however thumb-pinky towards your thumb, which opens the club face.

What happens when you swing from this position, using your wrists flexed in both directions (towards the back and towards the thumb)? If you fail to unflex your wrist laterally (thumb-pinky) you will hit the ball with an open face. Unfortunately, unflexing your wrist laterally creates the ping-pong paddle effect at ball impact. Nearly a mini outside-in swing. One so small you can not even realize you're doing it (and that happens too quickly to have any hope of controlling it.)

I know this is counter to what everybody teaches. A strong grip inhibits a slice and promotes a hook, however after seeing person after person go to a strong grip (and discover how to stop swinging outside-in) yet continue to slice I am convinced something else is going on.
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Hi, I am new to golf. I began roughly a few weeks ago and I am not really great.

Firstly, I need to ask, what are the cons of a straight back full swing. In a normal swing, the clubhead goes from square at 6o'clock to open when it's parallel to the ground and on the downswing, back to square. Well, what are the cons of hinging the right wrist immediately from the start of the swing, causing the clubhead to be "square" throughout the backswing.

My following question is that according to my golf instructor, I have been making use of a "right strong hand grip" and that that was no great. In this grip, my left thumb(i am a righty) isn't entirely covered and my right palm is leaning towards the right side of the grip. Can anybody tell me the difference?

Thank you in advance.
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